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Freddy
USA
3765 Posts |
 Posted - Mar 01 2010 : 13:57:44
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OK, perhaps discussed here before, but I missed it. When is a boat:
an Overnighter vs.
a Weekender; or
a Cruiser;
a Motoryacht; or
just a Yacht?
It seems in the past few years many of the manufacturers have taken liberties when describing their models.
Personally, it's in the 'Yacht' catagory when you step onto it and NO movement occurs.
Fred
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We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be
fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same. "
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folieadeux
USA
550 Posts |
Posted - Mar 01 2010 : 14:01:25
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| A YACHT means that every repair job is going to cost at a minimum $1,000 ;-) |
Neal and Barbara
Savannah,GA
"Olive or Twist" 2006 Meridian 391 T-Cummins 380QSB, Onan 9K |
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Hazstrike
67 Posts |
Posted - Mar 01 2010 : 14:09:25
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| All boats I've owned became yachts when it was time to sell them :) |
The Mad Doctor
You can't get far enough offshore. |
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Robyns Nest
5427 Posts |
Posted - Mar 01 2010 : 14:12:37
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quote:
Originally posted by folieadeux
A YACHT means that every repair job is going to cost at a minimum $1,000 ;-)
You mean $10,000.
$1000 repairs are on boats, not yachts. |
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JackB
USA
1181 Posts |
Posted - Mar 01 2010 : 14:18:06
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| Yacht more or less fits under the category of "when you see one you will know it". Many years ago, when my dad was Commodore of the Harveys Lake Boat Club in Pennsylvania he had the name changed to Harveys Lake Yacht Club even though it was almost exclusvively smaller racing class sailboats under 20'. His reasoning was that as a "Yacht" Club they would have reciprocal privileges when visiting other Yacht Clubs around the country. It worked. Some will say that a yacht should be large and have sleeping quarters. Working boats are usually not considered yachts. |
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KiDa
USA
12800 Posts |
Posted - Mar 01 2010 : 14:18:54
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| During marriage you both own and enjoy a nice boat. During divorce you p!ssed away thousands on that damn yacht. |
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Saint Max
'99 330 Sundancer
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talexander38
USA
507 Posts |
Posted - Mar 01 2010 : 14:27:57
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| how bout this when it has a bath tub,or when you're neighbors wonder where you go every Thursday morning and don't come back until Sunday.. |
HTC(SW) U.S.N. Retired
You'll Know I'm pissed when you hear the breech lock. |
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BillK
1415 Posts |
Posted - Mar 01 2010 : 14:28:51
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| If you are purchasing it is a yacht and worth a fortune, if you are selling it is a boat and someone will take it off your hands. Seriously, I don't know that their are specific parameters, but by the time you are around 25ft a boat (yacht) has a NMMA Yacht Certification which basically states the boat was manufactued in compliance with NMMA standards and does not list a specific capacity. Smaller yachts (boats) have a USCG capacity plate that specifies total persons and weight. |
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MikeeH
USA
11155 Posts |
Posted - Mar 01 2010 : 14:43:30
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| If it's yours, it's a boat. If its mine it's a yacht. |
Mike
He’s one of those who knows that life
Is just a leap of faith;
Spread your arms and hold you breath;
Always trust your cape. Guy Clark
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Gregory S
USA
7178 Posts |
Posted - Mar 01 2010 : 14:52:46
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| or if I'm selling, it's a yacht, if I'm buying, it's a boat. or, when I compare my "yacht" to my brother's "boat". |
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andy capt
FORE Reel
204 Posts |
Posted - Mar 01 2010 : 14:56:27
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| I was always told a yacht is the next size larger than what you have |
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Maycpa
After Taxes
333 Posts |
Posted - Mar 01 2010 : 14:56:43
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| WEll I had a secretary who got on our 45' three stateroom Silverton and said it was not a yacht. She said yachts were big, not sure what big is in her minimum wage mind. |
Arnold May
"After Taxes"
2001 Silverton 453
USCG 50ton Master License |
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boatbum
USA
11028 Posts |
Posted - Mar 01 2010 : 15:13:05
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| It's a yacht when the captain says so. |
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Gregory S
USA
7178 Posts |
Posted - Mar 01 2010 : 15:15:34
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| Arnold, was she a "real" blonde or out of a bottle? |
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Sandy
USA
6050 Posts |
Posted - Mar 01 2010 : 15:21:26
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yacht Mine's a 27' "yot".
Madoff's was a 55' Bull Ship. Some say much bigger. |
Sandy |
Edited by - Sandy on Mar 01 2010 15:23:28 |
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Capt. Art
USA
3022 Posts |
Posted - Mar 01 2010 : 15:54:13
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Sea Ray calls all their boats 31'-52' Sport Yachts & 52' & over just Yachts?
I'd call anything over 38' with a bridge a yacht. With no bridge 40' but that's just me? |
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KiDa
USA
12800 Posts |
Posted - Mar 01 2010 : 15:56:41
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quote:
Originally posted by Gregory S
Arnold, was she a "real" blonde or out of a bottle?
Thinking the same thing. Note his entire post is written in the past tense! |
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Saint Max
'99 330 Sundancer
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Robyns Nest
5427 Posts |
Posted - Mar 01 2010 : 16:23:31
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| A yacht is when you have to call a dozen marinas to find a travelift that is big enough to haul you. |
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OLD HOUSEBOATER
JUBILATION
2824 Posts |
Posted - Mar 01 2010 : 16:47:42
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OLD HOUSEBOATER
Plastic is for toys - Aluminum is for pots and pans - Cast Iron is for engines |
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earl
USA
404 Posts |
Posted - Mar 01 2010 : 18:22:07
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| When you can fit a 30 footer on or inside the vessel. Just my opinion |
John
2006 Century 1801
115 Yamaha |
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Perc
6195 Posts |
Posted - Mar 01 2010 : 18:44:44
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quote:
Originally posted by JackB
Yacht more or less fits under the category of "when you see one you will know it". Many years ago, when my dad was Commodore of the Harveys Lake Boat Club
Jack, I sent you an email. |
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Monterey 322
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Chesagansett
USA
7017 Posts |
Posted - Mar 01 2010 : 18:45:24
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It's a "yacht" if you dress like this ...........................
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Glenn
Herndon, VA
Four Winns Sundowner 245
"Going Coastal" |
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stmbtwle
8769 Posts |
Posted - Mar 01 2010 : 19:00:47
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| If I can't afford it, it's a yacht. |
Willie... She's a tired old gal but she's paid for! (several times over) |
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Audrey II
USA
1675 Posts |
Posted - Mar 01 2010 : 20:40:56
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quote:
Originally posted by Robyns Nest
A yacht is when you have to call a dozen marinas to find a travelift that is big enough to haul you.
I guess Hogan found out the hard way that he bought a yacht. When they couldn't haul his boat at his marina. |
Dave
Don't Worry, Be Happy
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1996 44 Trojan Express
2008 Sea-Doo GTX Jet Ski |
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winters remedy
USA
707 Posts |
Posted - Mar 01 2010 : 20:54:54
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| Watch "Wealth on the water" on the wealth channel, those are yachts!! |
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Live2Dive
USA
573 Posts |
Posted - Mar 01 2010 : 20:58:16
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| One definition might be when you annually spend more on insurance than fuel, it's a yacht.... |
Mark
Carver 530 Voyager
Turtle Time
"But my chart plotter says the rock is over there..."
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Starry Night
USA
822 Posts |
Posted - Mar 01 2010 : 22:56:00
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| I love my Yacht. |
Bob
Starry Night
2001 44' Trojan 440 Express Yacht
1985 21' Chris Craft Scorpion
1988 34' Carver Montego (Sold)
"Anything's gonna happen, it's gonna happen out there." Captain Ron
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caltexfla
2606 Posts |
Posted - Mar 02 2010 : 05:48:11
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I love my boat, no matter what Hatteras or anyone else calls it. My wife loves to go yachting on our boat. All's well!
George
Hatteras 56MY
Boston Whaler 130 Sport |
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Skeetobite
643 Posts |
Posted - Mar 02 2010 : 06:06:39
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quote:
Originally posted by Live2Dive
One definition might be when you annually spend more on insurance than fuel, it's a yacht....
LOL - that would be nice... but when the Admiral commands that we make way for some unknown cove or port every few weeks, the fuel bill often exceeds the insurance bill each season :-( |
America... A hole in the map I throw money into. |
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stmbtwle
8769 Posts |
Posted - Mar 02 2010 : 06:10:49
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quote:
Originally posted by Live2Dive
One definition might be when you annually spend more on insurance than fuel, it's a yacht....
I thought that was a sailboat. |
Willie... She's a tired old gal but she's paid for! (several times over) |
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BillK
1415 Posts |
Posted - Mar 02 2010 : 06:16:09
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| Hmmm, we never say we are going "yachting", it's always "boating", I never go out in the "yacht" it's always the "boat" should this site be called "yachtered.com"? Sounds like we all have fun on our "boat" and stay stressed about the size and cost of our "yachts". |
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Veebyes
Bermuda
2447 Posts |
Posted - Mar 02 2010 : 07:22:29
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A yacht usually has a pole sticking up in the middle of it sommewhere with some clothlike material attatched to it so that it provides propulsion from the wind. I would think that such a vessel would also be capable of crossing an ocean in reasonable safety & comfort.
Lots of manufacturers build what they term as MOTORyachts though many should not be seen 5 miles offshore never mind 500 miles.
Somehow I just can't get my head around calling something that looks more like an oversized tennis shoe a MOTORyacht no matter its length. It is just a plastic fantastic. It needs to have more of a boaty look to be called a motoryacht.
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pdecat
USA
23652 Posts |
Posted - Mar 02 2010 : 07:29:07
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| Considering that small sailboats are regularly said to engage in yacht racing IMO the manner of use is more important to the yacht designation than size. |
Bruce
legal disclaimer;
posts are amateur opinion only and should not be relied on as reasonable, safe, proper or in any way recommended.
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KiDa
USA
12800 Posts |
Posted - Mar 02 2010 : 08:39:31
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quote:
Originally posted by Veebyes
A yacht usually has a pole sticking up in the middle of it sommewhere with some clothlike material attatched to it so that it provides propulsion from the wind. I would think that such a vessel would also be capable of crossing an ocean in reasonable safety & comfort.
Lots of manufacturers build what they term as MOTORyachts though many should not be seen 5 miles offshore never mind 500 miles.
Somehow I just can't get my head around calling something that looks more like an oversized tennis shoe a MOTORyacht no matter its length. It is just a plastic fantastic. It needs to have more of a boaty look to be called a motoryacht.
JMO
HEY, HEY, HEY!!!!!
That oversized tennis shoe is on my short list. |
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David
Saint Max
'99 330 Sundancer
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van lafermine
USA
346 Posts |
Posted - Mar 02 2010 : 08:50:39
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| Its a yacht when I am explaining it to my friends but when paying for slips, Ins, Maint. I define it as a boat! Maybe they will cut me a break! |
Van
"Drifting Profits II"
4460 Regal |
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In the know
5708 Posts |
Posted - Mar 02 2010 : 08:54:15
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<100' - boat
>=100' - whatever you want to call it. |
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carver 2557
Canada
6799 Posts |
Posted - Mar 02 2010 : 08:55:05
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A boat becomes a yacht when you are bragging to your buddy's about your boat...
A boat becomes a yacht when your insurance company sends you your premium bill... |
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walterv
Albania
10355 Posts |
Posted - Mar 02 2010 : 10:01:39
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| I always considered a boat a yacht when you need a crew to drive it and maintain it. Or when they have a tender on their bow that is a large as my boat. Anything smaller than that and larger than my boat I consider those BFB :) |
Each day is a new canvas to paint upon. Make sure your picture is full of life and happiness, and at the end of the day you don’t look at it and wish you had painted something different.
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Captain Buddha
USA
381 Posts |
Posted - Mar 02 2010 : 10:24:53
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| I have a 36' boat but it has a yacht insurance policy...and the manufacturer is "Carver Yachts"...LOL...it's just a boat. |
Brad
"The water is calling." |
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FinnBill
230 Posts |
Posted - Mar 02 2010 : 10:25:13
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| It's only considered a yacht when you step on it and it don't move........ |
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PascalG
USA
17076 Posts |
Posted - Mar 02 2010 : 10:25:52
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| in my book, unless it needs to have a professional crew, it's a boat. |
Pascal
1970 Hatteras 53 MY
12' Westphal Catboat
16' Hobie Cat
2007 Sandbarhopper 13
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Larry B
USA
624 Posts |
Posted - Mar 02 2010 : 11:01:46
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| Whats that old saying? If it quacks like a duck, it's a duck! Mines an RV (Recreational Vessel) Iv'e got one that hooks to my truck as well, some call it a land yacht. |
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sbw1
636 Posts |
Posted - Mar 02 2010 : 19:29:03
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| If it's a 2005 or newer Tiara, it says Yacht on the radar arch right below the TIARA logo. Mine is just a 2004 TIARA and not a yacht. |
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Billylll
USA
8070 Posts |
Posted - Mar 02 2010 : 19:48:34
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Well I thought the definition was a the boat needs a head with a shower, hot and cold water, Air conditioning and heat, one or more staterooms, a salon and working galley. A boat a couple can live on for extended periods of time. I would add entertainment systems, refrigeration, communications gear, and access to the internet. Now make your own water, add solar and treat waste whats left? Plenty.
Bill |
WirelessOne,
40 Mainship
Sedan Bridge
Little Egg, N.J. |
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jamsac1
Canada
19 Posts |
Posted - Mar 02 2010 : 20:49:23
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I'll second Pascal's definition.
James |
1978 Cobalt 19CD
228 Merc, 305 Chev
MMSI 316 014 608 |
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Robyns Nest
5427 Posts |
Posted - Mar 02 2010 : 21:32:35
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quote:
Originally posted by jamsac1
I'll second Pascal's definition.
James
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1998 48 Ocean Super Sport
2003 26 Triton 2690
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mixman
USA
1934 Posts |
Posted - Mar 02 2010 : 21:47:27
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quote:
Originally posted by jamsac1
I'll second Pascal's definition.
X's 4
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2002 Motorcat MC30 "Deuce"
17 knot cruise at 5mpg (3.5/gph). Two hulls are better than one! |
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tmanmd
98 Posts |
Posted - Mar 02 2010 : 21:55:27
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| I have a boat |
TENACITY
Riviera 47 Convertible
2003 QSM 11 - 660 hp
Podickory Point, Annapolis |
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adru
368 Posts |
Posted - Mar 02 2010 : 22:17:13
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| If there are 2 different 50 ft+ craft and 1 has a hired captain and the other does not does that mean only the one with the hired captain is a yacht? Certainly when it comes to defining a yacht size does matter but the exact criteria is subjective. |
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Gregory S
USA
7178 Posts |
Posted - Mar 03 2010 : 08:15:09
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| I've seen some 25 foot boats that shoul have a professional captain. |
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Wingspar
USA
1271 Posts |
Posted - Mar 03 2010 : 09:03:53
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A yacht is defined as any vessel with the same LOA of my current vessel or larger. Everything else is just a boat.
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When is a boat a yacht?